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Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho: Constitutions and countries

Some people think that only countries have constitutions. I find that strange, since both write at Planet Debian; surely, Debian is not a country!

[Update: As hinted in the comments, I did not get MJR's posting. My bad. Let it be known here that he expresses roughly the same argument I presented above.]

In fact, the European Union is a country. It has a bicameral parliament (the council of ministers is sufficiently upper-house-like to qualify as one IMHO), a currency it governs, a passport, and it is the highest authority inside its borders. It is an unusual country in that its meber states have broad powers, but it is a country nonetheless. It possesses all four of the defining properties of statehood according to the Montevideo convention: The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. The first three are uncontroversial, and though the fourth is weak, it is present.

(Okay, that last paragraph is controversial, and I know the arguments are not airtight, but I do believe the case is valid.)

2004-06-21T22:24+0300 - /en/politics


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Re: Constitutions and countries

In addition to not reading properly the last article of mine you referred to, did you not follow any of my links this time then?

- MJR/slef, ma, 21 kesä   2004 22:00

Re: Constitutions and countries

No. If you have an argument, present it in the posting, or indicate clearly that your argument is contained in the links.

- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho, ma, 21 kesä   2004 22:18

Re: Constitutions and countries

Now you know what a link-quote is.

- MJR/slef, ti, 22 kesä   2004 00:14

Re: Constitutions and countries

And now we know what a misbehaving arrogant bastard is.

- , ma, 28 kesä   2004 09:07

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